Health Education AIDS Liaison, Toronto
NO PROOF HIV CAUSES AIDS, SAYS SPEAKER
Biochemist describes AZT as poison
Henry Hess
The Globe and Mail (Toronto)
There is no proof that the human immunodeficiency virus causes
AIDS, and treatments based on that theory are putting people's
lives at risk, a Nobel-Prize-winning biochemist told a Toronto
audience last night.
Describing the AIDS drug AZT as "a poison which has been
prescribed by doctors... for a disease supposedly caused by an
organism no one has isolated." Kary Mullis said people should
be skeptical of scientific orthodoxy.
Dr. Mullis, who shared the 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for
his invention of the polymerase chain-reaction technique for
replicating DNA, said his skepticism about HIV started in the
late 1980s when, in filling out an application for research
funding, he was unable to find a scientific reference to support
the idea that HIV caused AIDS.
"A lot of people think that we have that [proof] when we really
don't." Not only has HIV never been isolated in the way that
other viruses, such as polio, have been, he said, but researchers
have also been unable to prove a causal link between HIV and
any of the diseases associated with AIDS.
Nevertheless, he said, AIDS is defined as HIV infection, a
situation he described as "one closed, tight circle of stupidity."
By Dr. Mullis's account, the discovery of HIV owed more to
politics and economics than to science. By the mid-1980s, he
said, 10,000 scientists who had spent the last decade in a
fruitless search for a virus that caused cancer were about to lose
their jobs. At the same time, pressure was mounting on then
U.S. president Ronald Reagan to do something about the AIDS
epidemic in the United States.
In short order, he said, a French and an American researcher
who were specialists in C-type retroviruses announced that they
had isolated such a virus in material taken from the lymph nodes
of a Parisian decorator, and the rest is history.
Despite his credentials as a scientific heavyweight, Dr. Mullis is
equally famous as an iconoclast and intellectual daredevil. His
recent autobiography, Dancing Naked in the Mind Field, deals
with, among other things, his belief in flying saucers.
His lecture was sponsored by HEAL (Health Education AIDS
Liaison), a group challenging the scientific link between HIV
and AIDS.
In its published literature, HEAL asserts that the so-called drug
cocktails aimed at eradicating HIV "harm far more patients than
they help" because they are toxic to the immune system, do not
address the underlying problems of immune deficiency and do
not allow for the possibility that many HIV-positive people will
not develop AIDS.*
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The Toronto Star Oct. 19th 1998
Nobel scientists questions cause of AIDS
U.S. chemist says he doubts HIV to blame
By Theresa Ebden
Toronto Star Staff Reporter
Ten years ago, Kary Mullis asked a question he says no one
could answer: What causes AIDS?
He still hasn't gotten an answer that gives him the proof he
needs.
``That's pretty scary,'' the U.S. scientist and Nobel prize winner
saidto a crowd of about 150 at University of Toronto's OISE
auditorium on Bloor St. W. last night.
Mullis, 53, was invited to speak by the AIDS dissident group
HEAL (Health Education AIDS Liaison), which claims to have
500 supporters in Toronto and Vancouver and 10,000
worldwide.
He has lent his voice to this small minority who believe that the
medical research community is wrong in claiming that HIV
(human immunodeficiency virus) is the infectious agent that
causes AIDS.
AIDS dissidents claim AIDS is the result of a weakened
immune system due to sexually transmitted diseases like
syphilis, as well as multiple viral infections and lifestyle factors,
including nutrition and drug abuse.
The group he spoke to was made up mostly of AIDS dissidents -
a label he told them he despises. ``It's like we're starting a
revolution, but we're just asking a question,'' Mullis said.
Mullis first began to ask what caused AIDS while writing a
proposal for funding for a research project to test for HIV-
tainted blood. At the time, he was working for the U. S.
National Institutes of Health.
``I could not write that HIV was the known cause of AIDS,'' he
said, because he could find no research that backed up that
claim.
He said that for the next 10 years, he attended conferences,
searched libraries and the Internet and did not find one incidence
where it had been proven that HIV causes AIDS.
Mullis urged members of the audience to look up ``AIDS and
cause and HIV'' on the Internet. ``You won't find thousands of
medical research papers,'' he said. ``No one has ever isolated
HIV. No one has a bottle in their lab called HIV.''
It has certainly never been found in animals, he said, although
some scientists say a similar virus, SIV (simian
immunodeficiency virus) appears in monkeys.
But if the monkey disease were really all that similar ``we would
be testing cures, not in willing people, but in unwilling
monkeys.''
`No one has ever isolated HIV. No one has a bottle
in their lab called HIV.' - Chemist Kary Mullis
Carl Strygg, co-founder of HEAL Toronto, says he invited
Mullis to show that scientists are questioning current AIDS
research and also to inform people of the dangers of AZT,
which Mullis opposes as a treatment for AIDS because it is
highly toxic and has severe side effects.
Mullis, who is known for being a hard-drinking, thrice-divorced
surfer and a fan of psychedelic drugs, has been attacked by
critics for his views as well as his lifestyle.
``Critics who attack someone's lifestyle are just as guilty as the
people who suppress the questions in the first place,'' said Leslie
Anthony, a scientist at the Centre for Biodiversity and
Conservation of Biology at the Royal Ontario Museum.
He likened Mullis to Vincent Van Gogh and Sigmund Freud,
both geniuses of their time who used illicit drugs, he said after
Mullis' speech.
Mullis received the Nobel prize in chemistry in 1993 for
developing the polymerase chain reaction method, a technique
that allows researchers to produce millions of copies of a single
microscopic strand of DNA within hours.
At the time, it was cutting-edge in AIDS research - touted to be
a way to seclude HIV, which scientists then theorized was the
cause of AIDS.
He later used his research for more bizarre causes. In 1995, he
bought the rights to extract DNA from a lock of Elvis Presley's
hair, and using his ``gene amplification'' method that won him
the Nobel Prize, he was to make millions of copies of Presley's
genes and preserve them inside artificial gemstones, to be made
into a line of jewelry.
More recently, Mullis assisted O. J. Simpson's defence team as a
DNA expert.
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Monday, October 19, 1998
The Toronto Sun
'Danger' in HIV theory
By JACKIE BURNS, Toronto Sun
Arguing his theory that HIV doesn't cause AIDS, Nobel
prize-winning chemist Dr. Kary Mullis last night angered local
doctors
who say his message removes incentives to safe sex.
"I think it's dangerous," said Dr. Meb Rashid, a family doctor
who has travelled to Africa to work with AIDS patients.
"If he discredits the idea of a virus, it takes away incentives for
people to practise safe sex."
"He's telling people not to take their medication," said Dr.
Steve Strigler of Toronto.
Speaking at the University of Toronto's OISE auditorium,
Mullis, who claims that there is no reference to be found that
HIV causes AIDS, dared anybody to prove him wrong.
"Go to the Internet and find that reference. Find that person
who told the world that HIV causes AIDS," he challenged the
packed auditorium.
The eccentric 53-year-old Californian, who has a PhD in
biochemistry and admits to having endulged in hallucinogenic
drugs and pot, left many in the crowd either doubled over in
laughter or too angry to talk.
The forum was set up by HEAL, (Health Education AIDS Liaison), a dissident AIDS
group, which claims 500 supporters in Toronto and Vancouver and 10,000 worldwide.

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